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Even now planners are forcing people to build horrible ovens that make no accounting for heat. The planners in Ireland laughed when I talked about over heating in our self built house due to lack of eaves.


People don't value design that cools. Most all the spanish style houses you see in California, if you go back to photos from when they were built in the 1920s they all had awnings over all the windows. Those awnings are basically extinct now. Some people are even painting their buildings dark colors. They will chop down shade trees too in a quest for "natural light" aka heat they are now mitigating with a noisy central AC the whole neighborhood gets to listen to now. No one understands cross breeze and opening windows either. Just run up the AC.


True, though the places I lived in California (Sacramento, San Luis Obispo in particular) all had eaves. Covered patios were common too.


I feel eaves are more to keep the drip line from rain from hitting the foundation than for any heat abatement. Typical spanish style roof will not have anything on the side that isn't sloping for example. Just sort of ends flush with the wall. Some don't have any eaves at all really.


Strange then then places with lots of rain and wind (Ireland, Netherlands come to mind) hate eaves. I guess it keeps builders in business.

Ironically when I had a 200 year old thatched cottage it had 'eaves' by virtue of the thatch extending almost a meter from the wall. It had built up slowly over centuries of rethatching.

My experience is mostly with Californian houses that definitely had eaves.


Just from some internet searching looks like in netherlands they use gutters extensively to move rain off the foundation. ireland too. the thatch houses it seems like they need to whitewash the masonry with limestone paint frequently that helps some.

I found this example. https://images.pixels.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3...

Looks like the bottom row of masonry is actually failing here due to the rain damage and lack of upkeep on limestone paint. It will have to be repointed eventually.

Another thing with the califnornian spanish style home is the foundation is usually post and pier vs actual masonry exposed to a potential drip line. The one traditional californian design that tends to have eaves is the craftsman. I think it is a bit of an imported design from out east though, wasn't present in the mexican era. Some of these craftsman are on post and pier and don't really need them per say. But others actually have masonry foundations sometimes river rock foundations. I think there is also an aspect of venting the roof space through exposed rafter vents and you probably don't want water getting into unfinished wood.

When you look at even hotter climates, e.g. traditional adobe, no eaves there at all. Rafter beams just hanging out freely.


Being done here too (not Ireland): Right now, councils are approving, and builders are building, apartments/houses that are big square boxes with no eaves or shading, black synthetic cladding, and windows with safety stays that only allow them to open about 8cm so almost no cooling possible. The upper floors of these units are essentially uninhabitable during summer.


I really think Irish planners are climate change deniers. The ones in Offaly at least certainly didn't take it seriously ca. 2020.




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