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> Only a Zionist would call equal rights and the right to self-determination a "maximalist" position

They had equal rights and self-determination in Gaza. For decades. They never built a society from it, instead begging the international community for food, and then starting a war they knew they would lose, only for the PR points of losing badly.



Where's a blockaded tiny slice of coastal land no more than a few miles wide with no water and no arable land supposed to even get food? Nobody is convinced by the "they're just beggars" racist stuff, man. Those poor people were actively expelled from their homes and continuously oppressed and have had their new homes flattened countless times. The fact those poor people still survive and try to rebuild each and every time shows that those people work hard.


Israel managed to build agriculture there, that's why they left all that agricultural gear that Hamas repurposed to making rockets.

> Nobody is convinced by the "they're just beggars" racist stuff, man.

Nobody is convinced by the "you're just racist" stuff, man.


It's physically impossible for land that small to grow enough food to provide for their population. Those people were driven from their land and forced into an incredibly tiny and unsustainable space. And the whole "They never built a society from it" thing is what the most extreme racists and slave traffickers said about Africans so they could justify their treatment of them. It's dehumanizing and absolutely disgusting way to talk about a group of human beings and people should be shamed for saying such things.


I wasn't saying they had to be self sufficient. I don't think Israel is either. You do have to have something though.

You're trying to argue from rage instead of facts and I'm not buying it. You can be as angry and insulting as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the reason is that you jump to insults is that you don't have a point.

We DO need to free palestine. But from Hamas. From jihadism. That's what's killing them. Blaming Israel guarantees the kind of dysfunction that allowed Hamas to fester and jihadist nazism to be taught in UN funded schools.


'They had equal rights and self-determination in Gaza. For decades. They never built a society from it'

Uneducated statement by an uneducated user. Actually quite shocking. Information is free, educated yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip


You might want to point out something specific. And why are people just blaming Israel when Gaza has a border with Egypt? The answer is obvious isn't it?


Whats the answer? bomb Lebanon?


The answer to why people are just talking about Israel when Egypt also ran the blockade.




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