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> started each day with 2 hours of scrum.

What? Was your 15-minute stand-up 2 hours long? If so, are you sure you were doing it right?

Were you scrum-master, and doing 2 hours of admin per day?

What were you doing for the rest of the working day?

I'm not really sure what you are describing here.



OP mentions larger teams, so a 20-40 person team nets you around 22-45 seconds per person in a 15 min scrum. If we give each person 3 min that is a 1-2 hour scrum.


> a 20-40 person team nets you around 22-45 seconds per person in a 15 min scrum

Which is just one reason why you do not have 20-40 person teams in scrum. The team size top out at around 12, and yes, at that size you have to keep what you say at stand-up short and to the point. If you find a 20-40 person team, for scrum you will have to break it up into sub-teams.

Was he doing some variation of scrum? Some kind of scrumbut? I won't claim that scrumbut always fails, but it's not hard to spot where this went wrong.


We were doing it wrong, for sure. It was a largish team with lots of drill-down done into each person's status. I had no power to change it.


I wish it was a stand-up! If standing would've forced it to be only 15 minutes, that is.




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