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> I had a similar experience with drum circles in Toronto, Canada. They were this hippie heaven of people coming together in a park and playing drums once a week in the summertime. Other people would come by and picnic, sit around, dance, hula hoop, whatever.

My brother lived near a big ole drum circle in Santa Cruz, CA and had the same experience. Originally it was a small crew and they weren't a problem. They hung out, didn't get too loud, and were respectful of the properties nearby. Definitely some LSD and other substances floating around, but nothing out of control.

Couple years later it's essentially a quasi-homeless community and lots of problems with litter, noise, and, eventually, overdoses.

See also: Mop Theory & Subcultures -- https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths



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