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this whole data center in space thing is like a huge red siren screaming BUBBLE!

once these books have all been scanned and destroyed, doesn't it mean later competitors (and free-as-in-foss alternatives) wont ever be able to catch up?

it seems really sad that these books data isnt open in the first place...


  > If the labs end up with only 1-2 models ahead of the others, while spending 10x more than last year, that can only go on for so long. There just isn’t enough money in the world!
intuitively (to me anyways) isn't this one big reason why the top companies are putting out signals to slow down frontier development? its getting to costly and hurting chances of turning a profit come ipo time?

  > all that remains is the ugliness of stupid power
in the end, in the world of business and politics hasn't it always been these types of people that eventually float to the top? capital/power begets more capital/power...

i mean, imagine if your a business and suddenly you had to expense > $200 a month for every employee just to run a compiler, or you could just buy a computer and use it for everything else and that as well…

i think llms will be the same.

n=1 but at $work they are forcing us off enterprise and on to personal claude max that caps at $200 and people are like “you don’t need the top end models anyways just use the cheaper one for coding”, which begs the question how long till those “good enough” models run locally (with relative ease) and our company can cut that huge monthly cost with just the macbook pro they are gonna buy anyways.


  > Capitalism isn't an ideology
your confusing trading/markets with capitalism; they aren’t the same thing, and it definitely has ideology(ies)

https://www.britannica.com/money/capitalism


Sorry, I'm not sure where in that link you're getting that from. Do you have a quote from there?

nowadays i can’t even start a day without a fresh cup of jev in the morning…

  > Jev is a new type of model that just makes decisions based on given options. 
something like “if x > y then x else y”?

you will be assimilated

"Is there any X Windows user in the audience tonight ? Put him up against the wall. Is there one in the spotlight, who doesn't want to use Siri ? Put him up against the wall."

5 years of (200/month) tokens at that price, meanwhile an rtx 5090 pc is about half that… hmm

but i wonder how much these token costs are sustainable or not, it may be in the long term cheaper to have your own hardware if token costs go up (and hopefully hardware gets cheaper again)


The token price isn't the only reason to run a model locally though. You can do additional training to specialize or remove censorship that may be a no-no per TOS with cloud GPUs.

Cloud GPUs have ToS about purposes you’re allowed to crank numbers for?

I thought this only applies to LLM inference providers, but not raw GPU rentals.


some GPU-rental providers have restrictions that aren't really enforcable, like bans on crypto mining

Those tokens aren’t guaranteed (esp. with RE and security tasks - rooted my own TV last week, Claude crapped out on “cyber safety” grounds; but also no guarantees about the model served - providers can pull a switcheroo on weights or quantization at any moment, and new options may not work for you), and you’re throwing money at entities that aren’t aligned with your interests instead of entities who are interested in actually empowering you.

> Claude crapped out on “cyber safety” grounds.

A $10/mo subscription to OpenCode Go would have done the job for you.

They have models like Kimi K3, Grok 4.6 , GLM-5.3, Mimo 2.6 Pro (launched today, already available) which are happy to follow your orders without accusing you of being a terrorist.

https://models.dev/providers/opencode/


$2200 for a 64GB VRAM machine if you are willing to do a bit of work.

* https://imgur.com/mpdorVJ


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