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The Rise of ETF Slop - Ben Felix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14V7q4gHKFo


i cannot wait for the word "slop" to leave the zeitgeist.


be careful what you wish for, there's always some new awful thing to replace the old awful things


I wonder when/where that started. My girlfriend's kid and her friends have been using the word slop for at least the last 5 years to refer to fast food.


It started on 4chan with "goyslop" referring to unhealthy fast food and instant food.


So, like "spam".

Theyre both things we consume.

Well not me, but NPCs.


> Well not me, but NPCs.

I felt personally attacked by your comment, and would spitefully lookup your behavior tree and show it to you... if my behavior tree allowed that.


i mean, ive heard to for fast food and stuff before.

but someone said "ai slop" once, and now apparently slop is the only term people can think of to describe literally anything of low quality or anything they dont like.

ETF slop. microslop. slop article. self-reinforcing slop. word slop. slop-powered craft. slop-cannon. vibe spaghetti slop. tools slop. llm slop. slop site. slop factories. slop induced tech debt. slop submissions. slop content. intense slop. one-shot slop. slop art. "slop out a blog post about it". slop rewrite. spam-slop. load-bearing slop.

(those are all from the last ~8 hours on this site alone)

there is a bit of irony in the fact that the anti-ai crowd harps on overuse of "not X, but Y" and em-dashes, yet they all use the exact same adjective a half dozen times in every ai-related comment. maybe ai will start overusing the word slop and things will self-correct.


I have a feeling "slop" is the new "spam" (etymologically) -- it could be with us for decades.


i cannot wait for the word zeitgeist to leave the zeitgeist.


wow you got me, i forgot how zeitgeist is used to describe every single thing people don’t like now adays.

how could i have been so stupid not to see the identical frequency of use between "X slop" and "zeitgeist".

(zeitgeist is in 19 comments this week, we're 3 of them. slop is in 775 comments. most comments containing slop once contain it multiple times, so ~1500+ times)


My parents come to me with questions about how to close a app on their iPad, and frankly I can not be asked to give them a walk through when I put chatgpt on their iPad for that reason.

And yes, my boss also uses AI and replying to their emails with this is frankly going to do nothing lol.


My dad (retired network engineer) has ChatGPT, but when he asks me about something, he's trying to keep a connection with me. I value those moments.


and also that when you ask someone stuff, they might have adjacent insights or stories that then give you better insight than just asking an LLM

or some kind of ideas/etc. might come to light.



Thanks for including these! I feel like by the end of the month these related comments will span 10 different posts


Seems like it. And it's (only) been 5 days now, but jamming SL seems like desperation from the government side while there appears to be support from traditionalist faction(s) per counter-protests.

The perpetual struggles everywhere: rich vs. poor, and open vs. traditional.



That is true. UMA tokens are just a coin on the blockchain that can be bought. The resolution is put up for a vote. People can vote by staking their tokens and the losing side(s) lose their tokens. The winning side are rewarded the tokens of losing sides. In theory you can just buy out these votes with enough money/tokens


UMA's security model assumes the cost to corrupt the oracle exceeds the profit from corruption. It is quite interesting because it doesn't consider the Polymarket side at all in the calculation.

Doesn't this whole model break down when the Polymarket market far exceeds UMA's market cap?


Wouldn't UMA tokens increase in value proportionally to Polymarket's market cap, considering they're basically a unit of control of that market cap?


I am pretty low confidence here but I think in theory it should but in practice there is no mechanism enforcing that?

UMA's current market cap is $68M. There are some Polymarket markets far exceeding that.


Not really, because unless you control 50% of all tokens they are worthless.


Only if you assume literally all other tokens are voting against you


Not just in theory, it happens frequently. There's multiple 'markets' that resolved in untruth when it suited UMA whales. Polymarket is a scam site, with a thin veneer of gambling over the top.


Got examples? Articles about them? That sounds very interesting.



More transparency on the background of this poster: https://hackmd.io/@alexjs/Bkm1KIpxR


As someone who is part of the Hack Club community, I would urge caution before blindly trusting this account.

- This person has also used their access to attempt to extort the admins and their Airtable data, demanding a bounty payment for access they were previously given. - In her arguments about the program leads earning higher bounties, they had said that they both did bounties for Coinbase and Google, neither of which being non-profits - Many of her arguments are flawed in other ways.

Theo (yes the ffmpeg guy) also commented on it in a livestream, and I would just point to that:

> This feels really in the weeds of something we are not supposed to see externally. It is a lot of writing for what seems like clueless people doing backend


>As someone who is part of the Hack Club community, I would urge caution before blindly trusting this account.

As the parent of a Hack Clubber, a lot of what is said here rings true to our experience with the Hack Club leadership.


They created a new website just for this topic, and named it "kill yourself LLC". Not something you'd do if you wanted to be taken seriously, just IMO. Smells more like a KiwiFarms user.

However there's still no excuse for these problems if they are describing it correctly. When you're storing the home address of thousands of users, (1) you shouldn't do that at all for this type of organisation and (2) you should be very careful to protect it and (3) the first several times it gets stolen, you should think harder about whether your protection is working and there should never be a several+1th time.


I am not the OP but I think I know the back story behind this name and if I'm not wrong, it is related to events that went down in hackclub revolving a suicide attempt in HC being taken unseriously.


As someone who is/was also a part of the hack club community, this article is mostly correct. I've seen most of these events occur second hand as well in real time and can mostly corroborate with the accuracy of the article, except the minors in legal roles part. The community is severely mismanaged, data leaks happen often in very predicable ways and it does seem as if much of it is symptoms of vibe coding.


For context, this is the Theo clip: https://files.catbox.moe/1i7w08.mp4

It's a really long article so he only seemed to read a few paragraphs about the security vulnerability and then said the line while scrolling too fast to read all of the other points. Can't blame him, not going to lie.


Great! Now time to get to work and see how hard it is to enact his policies.


According to the Slack HQ account on Reddit, the situation has been resolved: https://old.reddit.com/r/Slack/comments/1njuchb/why_is_slack...

>We made a mistake. >This was the result of an oversight in our billing process, and we are returning Hack Club to its previous nonprofit pricing while we work with them directly to ensure their workspace remains fully accessible. We value the work Hack Club does to inspire and educate young people in coding and technology, and we regret the concern this situation has caused. We will be reviewing our billing and communications processes to provide nonprofits clearer guidance and adequate grace periods as they grow.


I wonder if anything would have been done if there wasn't a public uproar.


The answer to this is nearly always "No"


> the situation has been resolved

Slack cannot unilaterally “resolve” this situation, and their proposed solution doesn’t seem to address the concerns that were raised in the first place.


Yes it does. They don’t have to pay $200k/yr + $50k immediately, and don’t have to spend the time, effort, and money on self-hosting and migrating away.


It solves it for this one client. It doesn’t provide any transparency on exactly how this occurred (like you would for say, a data breach) and provides no guarantees (only words) that this won’t happen again, or any guarantee that this isn’t happening to any other client right at this moment!


“to provide nonprofits clearer guidance and adequate grace periods as they grow.”

So… still $200K for a scrappy nonprofit, just a month’s lead time instead of a week. Got it.


“Oh shit, we’ve been on HN #1 for a day, how do we control the damage”


Classic "I'm sorry we go caught"


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